Victimless Crime File: Hailee’s Sports Bar Shooting Proves Drunks Suck

Police are searching for a man who pulled into the parking lot of Hailee’s Sports Bar and Grill and fired 13 shots into the crowd. The Mauldin bar was open late to cater to people in the “service industry” which people claim to mean waiters and the like but in most cases you’re talking about strippers, tweaked out truck drivers and professional bar hoppers.

The shooting happened at 4:50am.

Call me crazy but people who work the night shift usually go home and get some sleep afterward. There aren’t many stable people who are getting drunk at 5:00 in the morning and heading to their cars to drive home. Drunk.

But I digress. The shooting, as the almost intrepid Paul Alongi of the Greenville News fails to point out, was a bar fight gone bad with a stranger no one seems to know. An altercation earlier in the night led to the shooter getting tossed out. Like any good belligerent drunk he didn’t take kindly to that and mayhem ensued. Three of the shooting victims are expected to pull through but police have no description of the man or his car, so I expect him to be on the loose for awhile.

Why bars are built in places only accessable to cars is a mystery we’ll never really figure out – though I expect it has to do with city planners factoring in DUI fines for upcoming budgets. But for those of you who don’t know why this crime happened let me enlighten you.

Drunks suck.

The only thing worse than a drunk is a room full of drunks, or what we call a bar. Bars are caverns of misery where unhappy people go to pretend their lives are still worth living – which is why there’s so much sex in the bathrooms. If you don’t want to end up in a fight with someone who might come back and bust a cap in you your first step will be to stay out of bars that serve drinks until 5:00 in the morning next to a highway.

I’m sure Hailee’s is one of the nicer places that gets people buzzed before putting them in their cars so they can kill the rest of us in “accidents” but even the nicest bar is a place people gather whose lives are not where they wanted them to be. Happy people don’t need to get drunk, angry people do. Angry people who drink tend to get angrier.

So if there is one lesson to be learned here it’s that drunks really suck and you should stay away from anyone who thinks it’s fun to drink until they vomit, blackout and wake up with a warrant for attempted murder.

Hmmm. Odd, alcohol is legal yet there is crime and social ills related to drinking. But I thought once something was legal crime and abuse disappeared? Libertarians I’m looking at you.

Comments

105 Responses to “Victimless Crime File: Hailee’s Sports Bar Shooting Proves Drunks Suck”

  1. Nick on April 19th, 2011 9:48 pm

    This is the most biased, ill informed article I may have ever read. Your blatant judgment of people who live a different lifestyle than yourself, shows clearly how ignorant you are to things that you do not have first hand knowledge of. You are correct that unfortuatly, some undesireable people come out late night, and that is unavoidable. However people who work late night, sometimes do like to go out and unwind after work the same way 9-5 people may like to stop by a happy hour after work, that does not mean they are drunks or unhappy with their lives. Some points you made may apply to some people in some places, but not all or the majority for that matter. Bars are also used for social gatherings where friends can get together and enjoy themselves, your stereotyping of something you have obviously not experienced or understand, only shows your lack of experience in what you’re talking about. It would be like me saying “anyone who doesn’t go to bars to unwind, and meet some people is a lonely loser who has no friends to invite hime there or meet. they go home and sit there by themselves, and if they’re lucky maybe a wife and kids they hate may bug them until they fall asleep, and then begin their aweful grind again the next day.”. Now that may apply to some, but not most. Either way it sounds kind of bitter and ignorant, much like your statements. If you are going to make idiotic statments like that, maybe you should add some statistics to your claims. How many drunk drivers have killed people leaving this establishment? Any? If so, the percentage compared to the amount of people who come out of there on a nightly basis, would be minimal. When I was working nights, I would stop out for a drink and meet some friends, we were not drunk, obviously at night there is a higher concentration of people who have been drinking too long and other things that you have rediculously applied to everyone, at night but for the majority of the people they are out to have a good time, they are not unhappy or angry, and certainly not looking for trouble. Actually they’re less unhappy, and angry, than your statements are ignorant and misinformed. You should at least be experienced enough of a person to understand that your opinion of something you know nothing about cannot be even 50% correct. I’m sorry I fell upon your article looking for some real news about this unfortunate event, and if you would like to continue this debate in any forum I would be glad to.

  2. Nick on April 19th, 2011 9:51 pm

    BTW, how is this victimless? 3 people were shot and one is in the hospital you insensitive asshole

  3. Rob Taylor on April 19th, 2011 9:57 pm

    Are you retarded?

  4. loup garou on April 20th, 2011 10:22 am

    and long winded

  5. nick on April 20th, 2011 2:33 pm

    I am not either, I am someone who knows both sides, I have worked those hours and in that business for a long time, and now I do not. The “authors” stereotype is completely off, and it is obvious to anyone who knows better. I also can see the intelligence of his readers by your comments, nothing back but insults, because you have nothing to say due to the fact that you don’t know enough to comment with anything better than “are you retarded”, and calling me long winded. I’m just glad that inexperienced judgemental people like yourselves are the minority around here

  6. Rob Taylor on April 20th, 2011 2:38 pm

    You probably mean “I’m neither” and you should look up words like stereotype before throwing them around. Like I’ve said before – I’ve been sober ten years+ and I’ve seen the show.

    It’s also telling that you think telling people how to not end up in bad situations is “judgmental” but I assume anything that suggests getting drunk and driving home is wrong would put you on the defensive. But please, tell me “both sides” of a drunken douchebag trying to murder a bunch of people who had just been drinking heavily and planning on endangering people going to work by driving home.

  7. simin on April 20th, 2011 4:37 pm

    You’re a fuckin idiot….. You must be some little bible bashing prick, or the most inconciderate piece of shit I have ever come across…… One of my friends is the VICTIM in this shooting, and was the worst off of all there people…. My friend almost died. Are you saying that your obnoxious opinion gives you leverage over the life of a human being??? I don’t think so….

  8. Rob Taylor on April 20th, 2011 4:45 pm

    I’ll assume English is your second language.

    I am not a Christians but I don’t bash the Bible either. I don’t understand what the “leverage” over a human being even means but I will say that maybe, just maybe, bars that are open until 5am aren’t great places to hang out.

  9. Concerned resident on April 20th, 2011 6:11 pm

    People don’t get shot for no reason… makes me think there is something that the ‘good’ patrons of this establishment aren’t telling the cops.

  10. Rob Taylor on April 20th, 2011 6:20 pm

    I’ve heard it was really just a loudmouth getting thrown out – but like you I find the circumstances suspicious.

  11. nick on April 20th, 2011 7:52 pm

    I never defended drunk driving, I questioned you accusing everyone or even the majority of the people there as doing it. You being 10 years sober only tells me that you’re one of the people who can’t handle the normal social aspect of drinking alchohol, and had to stop all together. you say you’ve “seen the show” then the show you saw was different than the one I saw for 18 years working in that business. You STEREOTYPED (I know exactly what it means you condesending jerk)all of the people being there as a certain kind of person, you STEREOTYPED all of the people that go to bars as unhappy with their life. Maybe you hung out with losers, maybe you need to have such a harsh outlook on these things because you are one of the few people who cannot handle a vice without it becoming a problem, and needing to stop all together. But to put all people who go to a bar in a catagory makes you the idiot. There are all kinds of bars in all kinds of places that do not all fit in to one catagory. I don’t have a problem with you saying drinking and driving is wrong, I have a problem with you assuming that everyone that goes to the bar is doing so. You can try and proofread people’s posts, and tewisting words, but that is telling, because you cannot defend your baseless stupid generalizations, so you try to make it look like I was defensive about drinking and driving when actually I was defensive about you ASSUMING people were without any knowledge of facts.

    As to the people questioning the circumstances, unarmed people got shot… what else matters? As for the “good” patrons comment, 1 man had a gun, 1 man was with him, 3 people MAY have had something to do with somekind of trouble, and were shot. That’s a total of 5, there was several hundred customers there that night. Should I assume all catholics are pedifiles because some priests were caught, more than there were people involved with any trouble the other night?

  12. nick on April 20th, 2011 7:53 pm

    “Call me crazy but people who work the night shift usually go home and get some sleep afterward. There aren’t many stable people who are getting drunk at 5:00 in the morning and heading to their cars to drive home. Drunk.”

    By the way, I absolutely know what stereotyping is, there’s an example. Obviously you’re not aware of what it is

  13. nick on April 20th, 2011 7:54 pm

    The Mauldin bar was open late to cater to people in the “service industry” which people claim to mean waiters and the like but in most cases you’re talking about strippers, tweaked out truck drivers and professional bar hoppers.

    example #2

  14. nick on April 20th, 2011 7:55 pm

    Three of the shooting victims are expected to pull through but police have no description of the man or his car, so I expect him to be on the loose for awhile.

    This is also false. The shooter was known that night, and was arrested the next day. You could have had 0 knowledge that there was no description because I know for a fact that there was

  15. nick on April 20th, 2011 7:57 pm

    Bars are caverns of misery where unhappy people go to pretend their lives are still worth living – which is why there’s so much sex in the bathrooms

    Stereotype example #3

  16. nick on April 20th, 2011 7:57 pm

    putting them in their cars so they can kill the rest of us in “accidents” but even the nicest bar is a place people gather whose lives are not where they wanted them to be. Happy people don’t need to get drunk, angry people do. Angry people who drink tend to get angrier.

    Example #4

  17. nick on April 20th, 2011 7:59 pm

    so basicly I just showed most of your article as stereotypical, and the only facts you tried to introduce as false. I see why you used to drink so much, you’re no better of a reporter than you were a social drinker. Talk about telling…

  18. Nick on April 20th, 2011 8:19 pm

    Hmmm. Odd, alcohol is legal yet there is crime and social ills related to drinking. But I thought once something was legal crime and abuse disappeared? Libertarians I’m looking at you.

    -But making something illeagle does not make it inaccessable, it just makes black market people rich, with no taxes paid. what about freedom? Because one person got in trouble with something I have never been in any trouble for, why should I not be allowed the privledge? I do live in a free country don’t I?

  19. Rob Taylor on April 20th, 2011 10:29 pm

    You’re right Nick you’ve proved how stable you are – and you’re not long winded at all.

  20. Nick on April 20th, 2011 11:25 pm

    I don’t see where my responding to your article would show me as unstable at all, and the only reason I would seem long winded is because unlike you, I provided facts and examples to things I write, not ignorant statements about things I obviously know nothing about. I also will defend my point, aside from cheap putdowns, which is all you’ve been able to provide. You claimed to not be making stereotypical statements, I very easily proved that you were. That is unstable? Or are you too ignorant to defend yourself, or the statements you have written. Stop looking down your nose at people who choose to do different things then you do. Obviously you had some problem that led you to being sober for 10 years, and if so good for you. But those of us that can handle social activities without them becoming a problem in our lives don’t count the years sober because it was never an issue that needed to be fixed. I praise anyone who does what they need to do to get their life straight, but that gives you no right to judge people who are able to enjot their free time in ways you cannot

  21. Nick on April 20th, 2011 11:42 pm

    You’re right Nick you’ve proved how stable you are – and you’re not long winded at all.

    while you’re proofreading, you may have noticed that I’ve PROVEN, not proved. Wow, you’re not even good at the things you try and dog me for. I think you may need a drink. But of course that would mean you would drive drunk, kill someone, and have sex in a bathroom right?

  22. Rob Taylor on April 20th, 2011 11:44 pm

    Right sure you win. Sorry to make you “unlike” me.

    But you think being this invested in a blog post proves you’re stable? If you were stable and didn’t know, on some level, that I was right why would you be this upset? Because like most drunks when someone points out that you suck (and all drunks suck) you react with anger because it’s a defense mechanism.

    By the way, those people who got blasted weren’t having so much fun, huh? Nor were the couple hundred people maimed and murdered by drunk drivers in SC last year.

  23. nick on April 21st, 2011 12:26 am

    First of all, I’m invested because I have friends who were there and I am very good friends with the peson who was shot. I also am not a drunk, and at no time did I allude to that, as a matter of fact I do not go out that often, and don’t get drunk when I go out. Unlike you I can have a couple of drinks and not overdue anything. You once again, are showing your ignorance and judgmental nature. No they weren’t having fun, but are you saying they deserved it because they were out? You have not once answered a post I have left with an intelligent response. Why does me debating you prove you right in any way, as a matter of fact I normally wouldn’t comment but you are so off and wrong it’s insane. You have no clue what you’re talking about. you’re a joke at what you do, and you’ve proven it because you have no ability to debate, all you can do is insult, make assumptions out of nowhere, and avoid the issue. Prove one thing you’ve said! One thing! without making a general statement and applying it to all people. Speaking of a defense mechanism, thats every retort you have made, trying to insult, and point out gramatical errors is your defense for having no ability to back a single thing you write. you haven’t even addressed you incorrect facts. Once again, at what point did I say anything that would have you think I was a drunk? you don’t even know who I am or what I do for a living, or anything. Proving your a judgmental idiot

  24. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 1:12 am

    Sure you caught me. Being judgmental is the ultimate sin – drinking and driving not so much. You win.

    No work tomorrow I take it? I’m just finishing up (had a pretty good day thanks to http://www.lightreliefpaintherapy.com/) but I see you had all day and night to comment here. Do you work from home?

    Since you haven’t clicked my ads (why i run sites) and you’re not someone who I give a crap about why should I “debate” you about anything?

  25. simin on April 21st, 2011 9:59 am

    Funny you mention that, because English was my language before it was yours, considering I am an English Citizen….. I know its hard to admit defeat, but come on, how is it possible that you think you have a leg to stand on in this debate… Nick has obviously proved that your an opinionated attention seeker… And I’m pretty sure that anything more you write is just going to make you look more apathetic and idiotic……

  26. nick on April 21st, 2011 1:07 pm

    It’s not defeat to him,because the people that believe him will believe his baseless insinuations. Now I can prove your judgments are wrong because anyone who’s read this and knows me knows how funny it is that you would assume I have no job, or am a drunk. whatever basis you use to form opinions is crazy. It’s also now obvious that you are not some concerned citizen writing a blog about local crime. You’re a person with an agenda, and you pick and chose crime stories that you think prove points you’re trying to make. From this case alone I know that you use rumor and opinion as fact to try and prove a point. The only correct fact in this article is that 3 people were shot, and the location. The rest is all just rumors and stereotypical opinion. The proof to that is that you have not tried to defend one bit of it, and you’ve used the same tactic with Simin and myself, with attempts to attack grammar and spelling, and insults. But not one thing to back up anything you’ve said. I never once said drinking and driving was ok, i said you were wrong for saying everyone who goes to bars does it.

    People who read this article and believe this man, please look in to to things he says, because he is using these STORIES to manipulate opinion from people. He is obviously someone who has had issues in the past and blames the alchohol and/or drugs he had problems with, instead of himself for the troubles it caused him, and now looks down on others because in order to feel normal he must assume everyone cannot handle things in their lives like he couldn’t. As well as the fact that he just posted that he is in this to sell advertising, and doesn’t believe in what he writes enough to debate the topics he brings up in a public forum. I’m sure he’s not always wrong, but he’s certainly not always right. He is always promoting an agenda that benefits him though.
    Sorry if I’m “long winded” but I address each statement you make in order because I am speaking about things I can back up, unlike yourself who can only insult and avoid verifying one thing you say. I’ll make it easy, at least tell who told you there was no description of the shooter that night? anyone? And please post how many DUI’s were issued to people leaving hailee’s? Since you stated they ALL are drunk and driving. How many? I believe the number is zero. Now are you saying the police aren’t doing their job? Because it would seem you leave no doubt that this is the case, but no arrests for it? Sounds like someone is speaking about things they have no clue about.

  27. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 1:17 pm

    Wow, you guys convinced me. Where you spend your time and who you hang out with have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you’ll get in a bar fight that leads to a shooting.

    Also my blog is a “public forum” and the fact that I won’t spend hours debating a drunk rather than working proves I’m a fraud.

    Giving advice to people to keep them from getting hurt is just a pretension – I see that now. Thank you for opening my eyes. Let me get my lunch then I’ll spend all day speaking with you two rather than making money.

    Morons.

  28. Pedro on April 21st, 2011 1:21 pm

    Nick, he sounds like a liberal douchebag. You know there is no convincing them of anything. How is our friend doing? Hit me up on FB or my phone. This blog is a joke. I’m not clicking on any ads either.

  29. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 1:40 pm

    Yeah Pedro I’m a Liberal. I freelance for the Freedom Center, run a survival blog aside from this one and am a delegate to the GOP but I’m a liberal because I think bars shouldn’t be next to highways and that getting in fights with drunks is dangerous. Are you guys retarded?

    The demand that others not judge you isn’t “liberal’ douchebaggery?

  30. DodiaFae on April 21st, 2011 4:21 pm

    Um… did I miss something here? Aren’t all “drunk drivers” people who are drunk? Non-drinkers don’t drive drunk, so stands to reason that it’s only the drunk folks who cause drunk driving “accidents”.

    I’m not sure where the disconnect with that bit of factual information is (and, to be honest, some of those comments were a bit too long-winded for me to even bother trying to figure it out), but a person would have to be borderline retarded to not get that.

  31. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 4:24 pm

    Just borderline?

  32. Nick on April 21st, 2011 5:10 pm

    You are not giving advice you are making judgments of what state all of the people there are in, you are assuming all of them are driving drunk, you are changing the nature of what you said in the article. And you are calling me a drunk again, where did you ever get any inkling that I am now or ever have been a drunk? Because I will meet friends at a bar? youre a complete idiot in that case. Your type make it embarrasing to be a repulican, unfortunatly your type come along with it. It’s clear you have no idea what your talking about, and I’m sorry your attention span does not allow you to read a full post, your lack of reasearch or knowledge shows that so I shouldn’t be surprised. You obviously need a drink. I can only hope you remain as unknown in journalism, and politics as you are now because the world certainly needs less people like you in any postition to make informed decisions

  33. Nick on April 21st, 2011 5:12 pm

    I’m sorry not all the people there, all people who go to bars period. Sorry you’ve never been invited for drinks to celebrate with friends for a birthday or promotion. they must be there because they hate their lives too idiot. please stay under the rock from which you view the world

  34. Pete on April 21st, 2011 5:26 pm

    Rob, your whole article is based on opinion and assumption and is at times highly offensive. There are literally no facts in this article and friends of mine who were unlucky to have been involved are saddened by your unkind words which utimately are aimed at people you do not know and who were in circumstances you hopefully cannot imagine.

    It is evident that you have a chip on your shoulder and made your mind up about the types or people involved, their moral status, their lifestyle, their lack of concern for the law or other people’s well being, etc, etc. Pretty wild assumptions.

    While I was in hospital a few years ago my wife was attacked waking in the dark at 5pm, the first thing the police officer said to her was do not let anyone tell you you shouldn’t be out in the dark or in a certain place at a certain time, people have a right to be where they need/want to be and be safe. A minority spoil this for the rest of us, including you and the people who were shot. That is the true story here.

  35. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 5:35 pm

    Pete- your friends were shot in a bar fight, what wild assumptions am I making? How do you not get this? Your friends WERE SHOT IN A BAR FIGHT.

    How is driving to a bar and driving home after drinking the same as being mugged? How is the fact that drunks suck (they do, as Nick proves) ruining your rights? Did I say we should close bars down? Or did I say you play the game you live by the rules.

    You people remind me of hippies who start crying when their friends OD or kids who don’t understand why the “friendly” dealer they knew robbed them. Drunk people do crazy things – and at least two drunks in that bar got into a fight. One came back and started shooting and none of you, I hear, are cooperating with the police. One of you knows who the shooter is.

  36. Pete on April 21st, 2011 5:44 pm

    I’m not going to bite or be agressive.

    I live in England so I only know what I’ve said above.

    Me and all my friends have been out drinking sometimes 3 times a week when we were students, I can honestly say hand on heart we’ve never been in a fight, or tried to start one. We’ve never driven to a bar or driven home from one, etc. The issue is your sweeping statements. People can leave there cars and get taxis, lifts, etc, there is such a thing as the ‘desginated driver’ who doesn’t drink on the night out.

    My wife wasn’t mugged it was attempted rape but that is by the by, my intention was to show how dangerous a persons opnion could be when handling a situation if they arleady had a predetermined view of what people were up to or should have been up to instead of what they think they might have been up to.. sounds absurd to even explain it.

  37. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 5:48 pm

    So your saying that drinking plays no part in any crime? And you live in England? Because I have a friend who was glassed by “yobs” who were drunk while he was coming home from work. But since he’s one of the few Brits who actually work (a fatcat to you) I guess you’ll say he deserved it. Redistribution of blood and all that.

  38. Pete on April 21st, 2011 6:10 pm

    The only person on this site saying someone deserves to be at the end of a violent crime is you Rob. Obviously alcohol causes many problems, nobody is denying that. But, and you cannot deny this, me and my family and friends are living proof it is possible to enjoy a drink and not turn into a crazed violent person (feel free to use your police sources to look me up all day long).

    I’m genuinely sorry to hear about your friend and I hope he doesn’t suffer any lasting fears about being out alone while on the way home from work like my wife does now.

    Sorry Rob, your comments about unemployment and fat cats are completely alien to me and the lifelong circumstances of my family and friends.

  39. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 6:13 pm

    Where did I say anyone deserved to be a victim of a crime? I’ve never said anything like that. I have grown up in rough areas, been in plenty of bars and cover crime for a living. Passing along tips to keep you safe is not the same as saying people deserve to be shot.

    But since you guys want to make me the bad guy I assume you just hear what you want to hear.

  40. Pete on April 21st, 2011 6:17 pm

    So it’s ok for you to assume I’d think your friend deserved to be glassed?

    Your whole premise for the article is drunk people suck and mix with the wrong crowds and get what they ask for, that’s how it reads to me anyway.

  41. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 6:18 pm

    So where did I say people deserve to be victims of crime?

  42. Pete on April 21st, 2011 6:24 pm

    That is how people are perceiving your article, that anyone who drinks or is out late at a place not within walking distance is a bad sort likely to end up in situations like this.

    You cannot deny assuming I’d think your English friend derserved his injury, so I cannot see how you’ve become so easily offended by someone essentially reversing your own methods.

  43. Nick on April 21st, 2011 6:36 pm

    Still calling me a drunk? Where is that from? you also are still not backing up any facts. And clearly have no clue what you’re speaking about. I spoke to on of the poeple who were shot today, he is cooperating, the shooter and is friend are in jail you idiot! More proof that you are writing based on an agenda, not fact. I would like to know still your basis for the things aside from the shooting that you’ve said were going on in the bar (or any bar) come from.
    Drunks may suck but opinionated assholes who speak out of ignorance suck worse. And if I was a drunk, what have I said that would make me suck? I’ve said you can’t make blanket statements about people because of what you THINK they are doing. I’ve referenced your stereotypical statements in numbered example above. And I am at work as I write this to you (I am a fat cat obviously)

  44. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 6:37 pm

    You mean retarded people?

    But isn’t drunk driving a different issue? Of course a person who drinks and drives is a “bad sort” and SC’s highways are littered with hundreds of bodies every year to prove it. When I drank I walked to the bar or took a cab – you know so i wouldn’t kill anybody on the way home – but that point is an aside. If you surround yourself with people that are drunk and or high fights will break out and some will be pretty bad. I would recommended people drink at home or in a family friendly place like a restaurant bar. Dive bars are fine for buying drugs and banging skanks – but not if you’re not willing to defend yourself from a knife, gun or glass bottle. Hell I learned that from Iggy Pop.

    Also learn what offended means. I just want to know where I said crime victims deserve it – which you again aren’t pointing out because it’s a lie. It’s funny that you and your friends will spend more time defending the bar where people got shot than attacking the shooter. Let me guess, he’s also a friend?

  45. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 6:38 pm

    Nick if you’re not drunk explain you posts and if you’re not unemployed explain how you have so much time for this.

  46. Nick on April 21st, 2011 6:40 pm

    “Bars are caverns of misery where unhappy people go to pretend their lives are still worth living – which is why there’s so much sex in the bathrooms. ”

    this is advice? What bars is there so much sex in the bathroom? I’ve never seen it. You must have been a compleate degenerate when you couldn’t handle drinking if you saw this a lot, because I haven’t seen it anywhere in Greenville actually. You actually know so little of what you say, you don’t even know how humorous that staement is to people who do go out. It’s utterly baseless

  47. Pete on April 21st, 2011 6:46 pm

    I walk to bars too (I think I mentioned that before you) so we’re agreed on that one too.

    I’ve explained on two occasions, you accused me of it so whay can’t I do the same to you? Your article says people who drink are bad and should be avoided, end of.

    You see how people can react when assumptions are made about them now?

    This is my last comment (feel free to reply with more wild stereotypes and assumptions, my main motive was to remain calm and balanced and watch you add more silly comments for visitors to this website to enjoy). Goodbye.

  48. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 7:00 pm

    Nick- I have never been to a bar where I couldn’t bang a chick in the bathroom, except strip bars where ironically there’s very little sex. If you aren’t getting laid what the fuck are you doing paying a premium for drinks? A bottle of beer in a bar is like $4 these days I’m told – the same bottle is 50 cents at wall mart. So what’s so important in the bar if not the ladies (or men if you’re one of the 5-10%)?

    Pete – You keep saying that I accused you so you accused me but England is a de facto socialist country that just had riots when people thought they’d have to pay more in tuition – so my joke had context. You pulled this idea that I’m blaming the victim out of your ass (or arse as you say) because it’s easier to argue that then pretend I’m wrong about hanging around people who are under the influence. This is, despite what trolls on the web like to claim, literally a strawman.

  49. Frink on April 21st, 2011 7:03 pm

    Can’t you guys see this is a pathetic attempt to cause a rise by saying controversial sweeping generalizations? Nobody actually believes this nonsense. This is called the Jim Rome tactic in the sports world. Most likely an attempt to generate publicity to a lonely blog column. Don’t get upset, he’s just a troll. You’re giving him what he’s looking for.

  50. DodiaFae on April 21st, 2011 7:04 pm

    When my husband was in college (just out of high school), he and some friends were downtown (I think they were going to a show.) He and one of his friends, just as they were getting ready to cross the street to meet up with the others, got jumped by a group of drunk guys, beat up, and ended up in the hospital. For no discernible reason, two guys were beat up by a group of drunks. So, not only did those drunks suck, but they were a bunch of cowards for greatly outnumbering two young men who were just going to see a show.

    I have known quite a few heavy drinkers in my life. I was one in college (and after), until I decided I didn’t like the lack of control being drunk (or even buzzed) caused. I can honestly say that I agree with Rob: Drunk people suck. I can guarantee that the sober folks that were around me those times that I got drunk didn’t think I was a whole lot of fun to be around at the time. I don’t find it enjoyable to be around drunk people now.

    And, as the TV commercials say, “Driving buzzed is driving drunk.” If you’ve had just enough beers to get a good buzz on, you get behind the wheel of a car, you’re a drunk driver. How many people, on average, do you think actually call a cab if they’ve had that third beer? How many designated drivers do you think really don’t even have a first or second beer?

  51. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 7:08 pm

    Watch out Dodia – they’ll accuse you of blaming the victim. This is just a bunch of people who “need” alcohol so they react badly when someone says something negative about their lifestyle. The truth hurts – drunks suck. Bars that close at 5am are dives and people in dives are troublemakers. Boo hoo I won’t validate their lifestyles so I’m the bad guy.

  52. DodiaFae on April 21st, 2011 7:15 pm

    If anyone can point out where I was victim-blaming, let them speak up. But no sane/sober person can logically disagree with anything I’ve said.

  53. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 7:22 pm

    No but someone sitting around drinking might …

  54. nick on April 21st, 2011 7:27 pm

    Not true at all, my problem with you is that you made several sweeping statements and now assumptions about me and my “lifestyle”. I do have a job thats just stupid, I actually have a very good job, you would be surprised, the reason I won’t say is because i like seeing how wrong your assumptions make you. I go out to bars to meet friends and have fun, like most people there, not to be beligerant. i am also not defending that I bar, I chose not to go there anymore months ago because I saw what was coming, with the crowd. I however have been around a lot of bars around the country and I have never been forced to defend myself from a knife fight, or had sex in a bathroom, and that is not what most people are there to do. you are right about being smart about who and what you’re around. You are dead wrong about saying everyone that goes to a certain place, or that drinks, or does anything you don’t do, are ALL there because their lives suck or whatever other rediculous things you’ve said. And you have no right saying I haven’t addressed anything, I have addressed every stament you’ve made towards me, you however have not addressed anything I have sent your way. I have never said whether I walk, take a cab, or use a designated driver, you just assumed I drive drunk. I haven’t even mentioned if I still go out, but yet you’ve continued to say I’m a drunk. As wrong as you are with every assumption you’ve made about me is as wrong as you are in your sweeping statements. Dodia, said nothing wrong because she is judging the people who committed the crime, not all people who go to bars. even among those who agree with you, your still the only small minded one who thinks he knows everything, but really has gotten nothing right.

  55. nick on April 21st, 2011 7:33 pm

    By the way, the shooter is in jail, which you obviously didn’t know (great reporting), and he is not my friend, and fuck you for that asshole, he shot my friend. And “all this time” takes about a minute to respond to you. I also do not need you of all people to validate any lifestyle, I don’t need alchohol at all I actually don’t drink much. I just don’t afree with judgemental assholes making staements that they don’t know anything about which has been more than proven here. I would meet you in any bar of your choice at any time, and say you were right if we were to find 1 couple having sex in a bathroom, 1. I promise you we won’t. You speak complete nonsense, why don’t you explain to me why you’ve been sober for 10 years I bet I’m more right about you than you are about me. Give me your details first asshole I’ll gladly oblidge mine after, I bet you won’t

  56. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 7:39 pm

    I’ve been sober for ten years because one day I was sitting in a bar, listening to some skank tell me how her old man was about to get out of jail for trying to kill her while my “friend” was getting ready to puke on me and I realized that my life would be better if I didn’t drink. There’s my details. I stopped drinking, finished my Masters and don’t miss it or the people I used to think were my friends. There’s my details – so what’s yous? Why so angry? What kind of pussy doesn’t know how to pick up a chick in a bar? Why don’t you take cabs home after a drink? What awesome jib do you have that allows you to comment at all hours of the night and hang around dive bars at 5am?

    Actually don’t – I don’t care. But you are a drunk, because only a person with a habit gets this upset when someone is critical of the substance they use.

  57. nick on April 21st, 2011 7:46 pm

    i already told you that I don’t go to that bar or barely drink. I also never said I that I don’t take a cab. I never said either way. I also explained that it only takes a minute to respond. I don’t believe your story because people who don’t have a problem don’t count their years sober. I am CCNA, with a degree in network engineering in a very large company. And I can get laid but never had to in a bathroom or with a girl that would in a bathroom, that says more about you actually. So you were pretty off in every way, no surprise there. Once again, show me people having sex in a bathroom. See it with your own eyes I’ll give you a whole week, you won’t.

  58. nick on April 21st, 2011 7:48 pm

    nothing you generalized is true. maybe for one person her or there, but not overall and you don’t even know that. That’s the problem. what happened was terrible, I have not been to a dive bar in a long time, bu that doesn’t mean everyone who does falls in to you stereotypes.

  59. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 7:57 pm

    What you want me to take you down town and show you a good time?

    You have a degree? I take it there was no final papers involved.

    But if you don’t go to dive bars how exactly do you know who is in one what they are doing?

    Blah, blah. I’m working – as you would be able to see with my constantly updated front page if you weren’t obsessively reloading this one page to argue with some guy you don’t know online. So get lost – go live that awesome life you keep talking about.

  60. Nick on April 21st, 2011 8:13 pm

    never said awesome, I’ve also said I worked in the rest./bar business for 18 years I know it very well and I know most of the people who work, at, and go to all the places in town. there were papers involved in my degree and my writing to you has been very clear, only you seem not to get it.
    I’m arguing with you because you have made blatently false statements about a situation that I know very well, and also involes an UNARMED friend of mine who was hurt very badly.
    You have clearly shown you have an agenda, and have no clue of any facts that you print. All you do is insult someone who doesnt agree with you, and make judements about people who live differently than yourself. I’ve made examples and the sane peole who read this can see that

  61. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 8:16 pm

    And he was hurt by the kind of people who hang around dives, right?

  62. Fred on April 21st, 2011 8:19 pm

    Police are searching for a man who pulled into the parking lot of Hailee’s Sports Bar and Grill and fired 13 shots into the crowd. The Mauldin bar was open late to cater to people in the “service industry” which people claim to mean waiters and the like but in most cases you’re talking about strippers, tweaked out truck drivers and professional bar hoppers.

    In response to your BIAS comment above: What about the people that work 2nd Shift for Fortune 1000 companies in the area and do not get off work until Midnight or later. Are they “Strippers” also!

    You are a BIAS Pig!

  63. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 8:21 pm

    Why aren’t they home with their families instead of getting drunk in the wee hours?

  64. Fred on April 21st, 2011 8:31 pm

    About the 3 people that were shot. How do justify calling them “Victimless?”. No one deserves to be shot. In a bar, at the office, on the side of the road, at a day care. They are victims all the same.

  65. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 8:34 pm

    Are you kidding. Victimless Crime File is s series I write that based around pointing out there is no such thing as a victimless crime – that drug abuse (and even alcohol abuse) has victims. Are you so retarded you didn’t get that?

  66. Fred on April 21st, 2011 8:34 pm

    Your making an assumption that people that go to the bar have family. I just moved here and do not have “family”. Also, If I did have family here I would not want to bother them in the wee hours of the night because of the shift schedule that was assigned to me when I got here. Compassion goes a long way for anyone. I am sorry for calling you a Biased Pig.

  67. Fred on April 21st, 2011 8:36 pm

    No I did not get that. Reverse pschycology does not work for me or most people. I must be very retarded.

  68. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 8:38 pm

    It’s not reverse psychology – it’s a well known meme that people who are pro-legalization use. They say getting high is a victimless crime. I say often enough it isn’t.

  69. Drunk Driver on the Loose in Greenville! : Greenville Dragnet on April 21st, 2011 8:48 pm

    [...] usually don’t cover this sort of thing but there are a bunch of morons on my post about the Hailee Bar shooting claiming that, among other things, I’m a douchebag for being critical of people who drive to [...]

  70. Fred on April 21st, 2011 9:19 pm

    How do I get to other “Victimless Crime Files” you have posted?

  71. Rob Taylor on April 21st, 2011 9:32 pm

    By clicking on the victimless crime file category in the side bar. There’s also a category on my political blog which I converted into a survivalist blog

    http://www.red-alerts.com/category/victimless-crime-files/

  72. Fred on April 21st, 2011 9:58 pm

    Thank you

  73. DodiaFae on April 22nd, 2011 1:42 am

    Actually, Nick, I also said that drunk people suck. IME, they do. I much preferred all the drunk people I’ve known when they were sober.

  74. max on April 22nd, 2011 6:41 am

    Wow. Just wow. Nick, Simin, Pete, and drunk driver loose in greenville (awesome name by the way), please realize what kind of person you are dealing with here.
    Rob Taylor is a member of conservatives4palin.com. That’s right, they couldn’t even be bothered enough to spell out the word, for, or maybe they just couldn’t agree on the spelling (they probably shouldn’t have let Trig Palin be the site editor).Using Rob Taylor’s logic about people who drink and his method of extrapolating characteristics of certain types of people based upon a very limited amount of data. This is what I have figured out about him so far.

  75. max on April 22nd, 2011 6:55 am

    1. He is a member of the Tea Party. Don’t worry I’m not gonna get into bashing the teabaggers,but I can if they want to test my knowledge.

    2. He probably doesn’t actually read much. That’s why he thinks Nick’s comments are too long winded. Well, that and the fact that he probably doesn’t understand most of the words.

    3. He watches Youtube videos of people shooting guns…………. and masturbates to them.

    4. Rob Taylor still has a MySpace page.

    5. Rob Taylor is masturbating to a gun video as I’m typing this comment.

    6. Rob Taylor believes Barack Obama is the Antichrist. And even worse than that, a (gasp!) Kenyan Muslim Manchurian candidate.

  76. max on April 22nd, 2011 7:00 am

    In short, Rob Taylor is an ignorant ,in-bred, toothless coward who makes personal attacks on other groups of people. Simply, because they don’t adhere to his standards for how people should behave. You know what that sounds like to me? A Nazi.
    Enjoy a taste of your own medicine.

  77. nick on April 22nd, 2011 1:31 pm

    Unfortunatly I agree with some of his politics, but proplr like him are the thing i hate about the right. I hate that when I tell people I vote that way that it’s tied to people thinking that I align with these kind of people in any way. I can only hope that any intelligent people can see immediatly through his fact dprived crap that he writes. Look at the “drunk driver on the loose” article it’s rediculous it never says once that they caught the guy drunk, it says police THINK he’s drunk, but they don’t know where he was coming from and never caught him. Then Rob Taylor says, why else would he run? WHAT!! The only reason you have ever heard of someone running from police, or hitting a mailbox is because they were drunk? Maybe there’s a high chance of it, but printing it as if they knew he was drunk?? idiot

  78. Rob Taylor on April 22nd, 2011 1:32 pm

    Yes, yes I’m an illiterate Nazi because I won’t stroke people about dive bars being safe. You’ve proved drunks don’t suck – by obsessively searching for sites I’ve joined and pointing out I have promotional websites. Great stuff.

  79. nick on April 22nd, 2011 1:32 pm

    …and all he’ll respond to is my typing errors, because he’s got nothing

  80. nick on April 22nd, 2011 1:35 pm

    YOU are so thick headed!! No one is arguing that point idiot!! We’re arguing that you judge every person that goes there or any bar in one catagory! That’s what makes you an ignorant jerk, get it?? Not your intentions, your judgement. Is that clear enough? You keep saying we’re against you for things we’ve never said!! Just like you’re reporting, you ignore the facts and take from it what you want, and then write the truth as it applies in your ignorant head, not by the facts

  81. Rob Taylor on April 22nd, 2011 1:41 pm

    So what are the facts -Haillees is a safe place to hang out and people walking to their cars weren’t planning on driving after drinking?

  82. nick on April 22nd, 2011 1:54 pm

    No but not everyone was there for no good, not everyone there or at bars in general are unhappy with their lives, and having sex in the bathrooms, all of the things I listed above as stereotypes. they’re all not true. Maybe you were that loser when you went out, and you hung out with those losers, but that’s not everyone. Yes there are bad elements at late night bars, mainly due to there being few of them, and it concentrates the people trying to have a good time, with the jerks who cause trouble, but that doesn’t mean they’re all the same. For some reason you don’t understand that. The only thing true about absolutes, is that they’re NEVER true

  83. nick on April 22nd, 2011 1:58 pm

    You honestly think all laws should be made based on your opiniion, and all people who disagree with you are wrong, you’ve twisted every point that has tried to be made against you in to things that weren’t said, and you judge every person that doesn’t live exactly like you do. You seriously need to open your eyes because being right on some things does not make you right on all of them like you seem to think you are. If you could see yourself objectivly you may see that you really are a jerk for the most part

  84. Rob Taylor on April 22nd, 2011 1:59 pm

    Not everyone in the ghetto is up to no good – but they’re still in a ghetto and must take extra precautions.

    But again – were people in the parking lot getting into cars planning on driving home after drinking or not?

    And if absolutes are never true i suppose there are some nuances you can explain about pedophiles, crack use, genocide etc. Only people who are doing something they know is wrong argue that there’s no such thing as an absolute wrong (like drinking and driving)

  85. Rob Taylor on April 22nd, 2011 1:59 pm

    What law did I say should be based on my opinion? And again, no work today?

  86. nick on April 22nd, 2011 2:08 pm

    I work at night asshole, and I can also write at work. Your entire estimation is opinion, and bringing other things in to this doesn’t make your point. The reasons you said all are there is wrong. there you go generalizing again. What do you know about what most people think? Most people don’t think like you thankfully

  87. Rob Taylor on April 22nd, 2011 2:12 pm

    But you have commented here at night – and when I used to pull a night shift I needed to be out taking care of business during the daylight hours i was up – paying bills etc. Oh, do you “work” at a bar – cleaning up for drinks? Or were you one of the “security” pros who f’ed this up?

    So … were the people getting into cars after drinking planning to drive?

  88. nick on April 22nd, 2011 2:12 pm

    The assumptions you have about me show how off your entire way of thinking are, Even the most conservative of my friends have seen this and laugh about how emabarresing you are to the right. Anyone who has seen this and knows me can see that if you’re that wrong about me, how wrong are you about everything? I’m a drunk, and I don’t work? Either you’ve figured out something no one who knows me knows or you’re wrong, like with most things because you don’t listen, you rely on your interpretation and don’t even consider otherwise, that makes you ignorant

  89. nick on April 22nd, 2011 2:16 pm

    I’m sure some were, and most weren’t. And no I don’t work at a bar, I’ve told you what I do. And once again, everything doesn’t apply to what you did and how you did it. All of my responsibilities are well taken care of, and when I did work in bars I did not ever work at hailees. I’ve said I agree with you on the atmosphere in there, but that is not all places, or all of the people there, most of the people who go there, and most bars are nice people just out to have fun, you assume the few are the majority and thats where you’re wrong

  90. Rob Taylor on April 22nd, 2011 2:16 pm

    So they were planning on driving drunk, or “buzzed” and you don’t want to say that. Now where did I say I wanted laws created based on my opinion?

    If you want to continue to claim these things then be clear – where have i claimed I want laws based on my opinion?

  91. Rob Taylor on April 22nd, 2011 2:19 pm

    I’ve never claimed they weren’t “nice people” just that bars aren’t places where people really have fun. It’s places where people get drunk. Why does that bother you?

    I have said that late night clubs and bars are not usually the safest places. Why does that bother you?

    I said driving while drunk is disgusting – and in this state hundreds of people have died from drunks doing so. Why does it bother you that people are against that?

  92. Nick on April 22nd, 2011 4:29 pm

    it bothers me that you assume ALL of the people and ALL of the bars are there for devious purposes. And bars are a place where some people have fun.
    “Bars are caverns of misery where unhappy people go to pretend their lives are still worth living – which is why there’s so much sex in the bathrooms.” is not a true statement, I’ve copied several times what I mean, you choose not to see it. I still say, you cannot go to a bar this weekend, and find someone haivng sex in the bathroom. i challenge you to find it and prove it

    “The Mauldin bar was open late to cater to people in the “service industry” which people claim to mean waiters and the like but in most cases you’re talking about strippers, tweaked out truck drivers and professional bar hoppers.”

    -Funny most of the people I know that go there are from restraunts after work, I’m sure some strippers, do they not have a right to go out after work? I don’t know any tweaked out truckers, and have never known any to be anywhere I have been.

    “Call me crazy but people who work the night shift usually go home and get some sleep afterward. There aren’t many stable people who are getting drunk at 5:00 in the morning and heading to their cars to drive home. Drunk

    - Many people are not tired after being at work for 8-10 hours and want to go out and unwind, there is a legal level you are allowed to drink and still drive home. That is told to me by police actually.

    “putting them in their cars so they can kill the rest of us in “accidents” but even the nicest bar is a place people gather whose lives are not where they wanted them to be. Happy people don’t need to get drunk, angry people do. ”

    -Not true at all, I have been to bars to celebrate birrthdays, promotions, and ,many happy events where everyone had fun and no one got upset. When I was working in bars, I made any reasonable effort I could to not allow someone to drive who shouldn’t, as well my bosses were also looking out for this. Like I said your intentions are correct, but your words are not, they are blanket statments that do not apply to the majority of the people you are talking about

  93. Nick on April 22nd, 2011 4:31 pm

    maybe you should be more aware of what you write, you certainly have said they are not nice people. Trust me I am not defending Hailee’s, but more the industry overall and the patrons in general. I am aware that there is bad involed, but not the majority.

  94. Nick on April 22nd, 2011 5:40 pm

    Now I would like to know where and when I ever saod that i have a problem with you being against drunk driving, or giving advice on staying out of trouble? i also would like some proof on the sex in bathrooms comment, since you think it seems to be so common. To avoid any other stupid statments I will let you know that I am at work as I type this, and not drunk. Just sober, employed, responsible, and disagreeing with you.
    Also can you back up any one of YOUR comments that I have copied and pasted above with facts or proof? Any of them. Unfortunatly for you, your burden of proof lies in prooving ALL things, and EVERY person since that is how you have worded it, and you seem to think that anyone who doesn’t believe in absolutes is guilty of something…

  95. Rob Taylor on April 22nd, 2011 6:50 pm

    You’re at work raising hell with some guy on the Internet on your bosses dime. Nice.

    How’s this – I’m not going to keep explaining things to you. Go to a bar with a blue light and you’ll see what went on there in the bathrooms, ask the people you’re defending about their lives and how they live it.

    The difference between you and me is that I don’t want people to get lit up in parking lots by the degenerates who they run into in dive bars. You prefer that those crimes happen as long as no one dares to criticize the lifestyle you claim not to lead but are so invested in.

    Here’s another tip – I don’t care what you think. I do care that a bunch of people got shot – but I don’t think i have to glad hand them to help prevent other people from being in the same position. Another gun fight happened at a dive bar in Greenville last night – I’m working on that piece now. I suppose I’ll see you in the comments there whining about how unfair I’m being to the people who frequent a club frequented by gang bangers.

    Now click an ad or beat it.

  96. Nick on April 22nd, 2011 8:26 pm

    1. you continue to have an opinion on things that you have no clue about. My boss not only knows about this ongoing conversation, but has seen it and laughed about how rediculous you are.

    2.I don’t want those things either. Stop putting words in my mouth and twisting my intentions, especially when I have not said anything at any time that justifies what you are implying. I am not speaking about a lifestyle or defending anyone, because I don’t know each individual person as you claim to. I am saying I know first hand, people who do enjoy cetain establishments, and things that do not fit in to your crazy statements. you’re not trying to save anyone who doesn’t agree with you from anything. You’re also not very intelligent because I have clearly said I support your intentions several times, but yet you still try to twist what I’m trying to say to you. And I don’t need to find the sex in the bar bathrooms because I know it’s not happening at a pace in which you seem to thik it is. I worked in bars for 18 years and maybe saw it twice, and it wasn’t in Greenville. You’re the one ,making claims, prove it. I know that you can’. And you know that you can’t.
    Here’s another statement. I care that people are not manipulated by manufactured facts put out to serve some crackpots agenda, so I’m calling you on your bullshit, and all you have been able to do is insult, and take a holier than thou attitude. You do have to explain, if you are choosing to write in a public forum be a proffesional and be able to show some kind of base behind what you say, which you can’t.

    Now I will not click an ad, I also will not give business to any company that advertises with you, but I will continue to write on a free public forum that is handing shit to the community I live in disguised as news, as long as your site doesn’t require a membership, or a fee to join, I will continue to make sure your readers are aware of your lack of accuracy, and the constant speculation in pusuit of your agenda, when I feel like it. If you don’t want my comments, stop posting.

  97. Nick on April 22nd, 2011 8:28 pm

    Now I would like to know where and when I ever saod that i have a problem with you being against drunk driving, or giving advice on staying out of trouble?

  98. Rob Taylor on April 23rd, 2011 12:20 am

    You know that the only company “advertising” with me is Google right? Also, this isn’t a “free public forum” this is a privately owned business. To prove that point, you’re banned.

  99. Rachel on April 25th, 2011 1:41 pm

    Wow. So coming across this was a pure accident and I wish for the life of me that I hadn’t. I used to work at Hailee’s and I’ll be the first to tell you that it is…by no means…one of the nicer bars in Greenville. And while its true that strippers and drug dealers and Just shady folks in general do patron the place, there are a few people who frequent there that many consider to be a benefit to society. I too know the individuals that were the victims of this crime. One really was just an innocent bystander and was not involved in the “bar fight” in any way shape or form. He currently has four…yes FOUR…holes in his leg. The bar fight was a drug deal gone wrong from another bar. The other two shooting victims don’t conduct their business at Hailee’s and were just trying to hang out and enjoy themselves. The man who committed the crime was actually called a cab but he refused to take it. And by the way, drunk people do suck. They make a complete fool of themselves, make horrendous messes that I have to then clean up, and on occasion do drive home drunk and even kill people. A friend of mine was killed by a drunk driver almost a month ago. So yeah drunk people, or should I say the results of their actions, suck. Go out with friends, have a good time, have a couple of drinks…But please please use self control and think about how your actions may affect an innocent person.

  100. Rob Taylor on April 25th, 2011 1:52 pm

    Pretty much my point Rachel. It’s unfortunate that people have to be aware of what types of places they are frequenting but it’s true. That’s my advice to people, think about where you are, who else is there and whether or not you need to be there.

    And of course don’t drive drunk. Stay safe.

  101. loup garou on April 25th, 2011 3:05 pm

    holy crap my eyes are dry and my head hurts…. geeezus. I’ve seen a lot of people argue back and forth with you Rob, and I still don’t get it. “this isn’t news” “you are opinionated” it’s your blog site about crime in Greenville…. if you don’t like it move on, there is about a million more sites out there, I’m sure one will fit your ideology. Oh and by the way Rob… he TOTALY nailed you on the whole youtube gun shooting masturbation thing…. LOL. I also love people that number their points…. 1. their points suck and are hard to follow. 2. I’m stopping now before I become a long winded hypocrite… or start another post to continue my asinine rant.

  102. loup garou on April 25th, 2011 3:06 pm

    NOT!

  103. Rob Taylor on April 25th, 2011 3:20 pm

    Yeah I love when people act lie they caught me … using my public Youtube account to promote fellow bloggers or bookmark videos I literally embed in my sites. Next they’ll start saying I’m a shill for my own Amazon account, and expose my “secret” facebook account

  104. Support Mauldin’s Bar Hour Limit! : Greenville Dragnet on June 20th, 2011 8:28 am

    [...] for those of you who don’t know Hailee’s was the scene of a early morning shooting which is said to be a drug deal gone bad. Now the owner is upset that Mauldin wants to nip this [...]

  105. Mauldin Was Right to Revoke Hailee’s Business License (with Pictures!) : Greenville Dragnet on September 27th, 2011 5:05 pm

    [...] When I covered the shooting in Hailee’s parking lot back in April I took the opprotunity to give out some safety advice to all you bar hoppers. It boiled down to this – bars that close at 5:00am are sleezy dives and drunk people are not rational so you need to stay out of said bars if you’re not ready to defend yourself. That created quite a to-do on in the comments where people claimed my characterization of Hailee’s and all the bar patrons and workers of the world were wrong and I had no idea what I was talking about. Also I was a liberal douchebag and a Conservative fascist who couldn’t handle my liquor and never had a drink in my life. It was a rollicking discussion to be sure. [...]

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